A suspected terrorist has told police Sir David Amess suspected a Brass Eye-style ‘sting’ before launching a frenzied knife attack.
Ali Harbi Ali, 26, stabbed the veteran Tory MP 21 times after attending a constituency surgery appointment in Leigh-on-Sea, Essex on October 15 last year, the Old has learned Bailey.
He allegedly brandished the 12-inch-long bloody knife before being apprehended by two unarmed police officers.
On Friday, jurors viewed police video interviews in which Ali calmly described in detail how he carried out the attack.
He told the police, “I sat down with him. He was quick, but I think he immediately knew something was up.
“Well, it looked awkward because I was holding my phone, ready to send, like, a bunch of messages to let my family know what was going on.
“Then he must have thought it was a Labor sting, because he was like, ‘Oh, you must be very political. You’re from the Labor Party, you’re not recording me, are you?
“Because…Brass Eye, they did something to him, 14 years ago.”
Ali poked fun at “Cake,” in apparent reference to a satirical episode about fake medicine.
He continued: “I felt like one minute I was sitting at the table talking to him and the next he was kind of dead.
“But, yeah, this is probably one of the weirdest days…of my life right now, you know?”
After his arrest, Ali confirmed it was a “terrorist attack”, saying: “I mean, I guess so, I killed an MP. I did, so yes.
During the next interview, on October 16, police officer Jody Grogan reminded Ali of what he had said.
Ali replied, “Oh my God, I look stupid there.
“Nah, I just…the way I phrased it.” (laughs) It sounds like an episode of Little Britain. Uh, I just… yeah, that sounded like an act of terrorism.
“I went into a deputy’s surgery and killed him, so with the idea of revenge in a way, so I’m going, I guess we’ll get to that a bit later.”
When asked to describe how he felt after the murder, as he prayed with blood on his fingernails, he said: “It seems a bit, I don’t know, almost satanic, it’s weird. .
“Obviously I killed someone. There’s no doubt about it, but it still doesn’t feel like it.
“Maybe it’s because I feel justified in what I did.”
When asked if he thought he did a “good deed,” he replied, “If I didn’t believe it was a good deed, I wouldn’t do it.”
Ali described his previous ambition was to study medicine, but in 2014 he said: “I’ve pretty much radicalized myself already.”
He said he dropped out of college “to consider whether or not I was going to do the Hijrah (trip), which was my preference, or to commit an act of domestic terrorism.”
In 2019 he had decided not to travel to Syria, but 2020 was a “year of no responsibility” because of the coronavirus, he said.
He told police he was “running out of excuses” after seeing there were “a lot of attacks all over the country”.
He decided to target an MP who had voted on the Syrian airstrikes because they were “accessible” and “numerous”.
He said he didn’t choose Sir David because he was a Tory.
“It wasn’t just him – I went to Mike Freer’s surgery at Finchley.”
He also looked at photos of Michael Gove’s home in west London, saying it would be “probably the easiest to get to”.
He said: ‘The reason I started going to Parliament at the end was because he (Mr Gove) broke up with his wife so (the) house was sold, he found a new place, and it felt like a door closing.”
Ali told police he bought the knife five years ago and kept it in his bag throughout that summer.
He said officers would find a plan of attack on Mr Gove on his electronic devices.
He added: “But I never followed that plan.”
He used to go to the minister’s speech as he was tipped to replace Theresa May as prime minister and subject to media attention.
He said, “It was laziness. It was…so convenient to go to that address but I don’t know why I didn’t go to that one.
Ali spoke about the so-called Islamic State and al-Qaeda, but said he did not consider himself “extreme” in his Muslim faith.
When asked if he considered himself a member of the Islamic State, he replied: “I say I have allegiance to them. But it feels weird to call me a member. I don’t think I deserve this. »
PC Jody Grogan said: “Now what?”
Ali replied, “After the fact? Yes why not.
“If tomorrow it was on the news ‘it’s an attack perpetrated by an Islamic State militant’, fine. This is how I want to be seen.
Ali, from Kentish Town, north London, denied murder and plotting terrorist acts.